In this episode I sit down for an emotional conversation with my good friends Dru Mack and Lee Smith about the interesting topic of mentorship. How it starts, what it means, and what happens when the student surpasses the teacher. 

Some say that mentorship is dying. I'm not sure that's true, although mentors are definitely outnumbered by new climbers these days. As such, it's evolving into something entirely different. Dru and Lee's relationship has straddled these changes, and has evolved into something totally new. Something that while it may not look the same on the outside, has to be founded in trust and direction.